Legal Battles : Haringey Council, Lawful Rebellion http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/archive/tags/Haringey+Council/Lawful+Rebellion/default.aspxTags: Haringey Council, Lawful RebellionenCommunityServer 2007 SP2 (Build: 20611.960)Seven Years for Child Cruelty and a Lying little Coronation St Actress Michelle Collinshttp://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/archive/2012/08/12/go-do-a-private-prosecution-on-the-uk-judicial-system.aspxSun, 12 Aug 2012 20:25:00 GMTc7306cf9-8c9b-4f2c-8f21-f8b2637dc339:2610Maurice Kirk3http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=2610http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/archive/2012/08/12/go-do-a-private-prosecution-on-the-uk-judicial-system.aspx#comments<p>Where I would simply say this actress is a BL**DY LIAR because her conversation, at her door of her house, was tape recorded and the rest is a fairy tale. Her subsequent conduct was also witnessed by several, including my self when I took photograghs anticipating the shallow attitude such a woman would make of this family's tragedy. </p><p>Sabine best puts it well when writing to the gutter press:</p><p>Dear Anissa Haddadi</p><p>Given <a href="http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/373617/20120814/abusive-parents-who-accused-coronation-street-star.htm">your article of 14th August</a>, I presume that you were neither in court nor have you visited the parents in prison, let alone the children in ‘care’. </p><p>I must assume that you were simply copying a press release, and I am most curious to learn who issued it. Who is benefitting, besides Michelle Collins, one must wonder? </p><p>I don’t want to go into the details that are simply wrong in this one case, except for the most outrageous claims of ‘possessed by evil spirits’. Please <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC1IefyBe7g">watch the mother</a>, an ordained Bishop, in her passionate preaching to know otherwise.  </p><p>As publisher of <a href="http://victims-unite.net/">Victims Unite</a>, I had received many emails about the Musas before starting a <a href="http://gloriamusa.wordpress.com/about/">website to publicise their ordeal</a>, whilst caring for my mum in Germany. Eventually, I received a ‘gagging order’ from Haringey Council – the third one to wear with pride... For I’m a systems analyst, mathematician and computer scientist. I look at Punishment without Crime and note that the Musa case is acknowledged to be the worst of all child snatching cases known to all experts in the field. </p><p>Why should International Business Times be interested in either Michelle Collins, Haringey Council, Nigerians or <a href="http://victims-unite.net/child-snatching/">child snatching</a>? Or is it simply the summer trough that needs to be filled with sensationalism? </p><p>Still, should you be interested in more biased, truthful and ultimately investigative reporting, I’d be happy to supply you with more information, including a photo of the 23 files of documentation that Haringey Council produced to keep some lawyers busy... </p><p>Who benefits, must always be the overriding question, it seems.</p><p>With kind regards, </p><p>Sabine</p><p><a href="http://gloriamusa.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/trying-to-make-sense-of-irrational-behaviour-and-decisions/">http://gloriamusa.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/trying-to-make-sense-of-irrational-behaviour-and-decisions/</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august152012/musa-sentence-jg.php">http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august152012/musa-sentence-jg.php</a></p><p>Post prior to sentencing:</p><p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/Blog%20Private%20Prosecution%20on%20the%20UK%20Judicial%20System.docx"><b>Blog Private Prosecution on the UK Judicial System.docx</b></a></p> <p><b>STOP PRESS</b></p> <p><b>Mr and Mrs Musa are to appeal their conviction and sentence</b></p> <p>Gloria Musa is too ill to see visitors in prison.</p> <p>Today the Holloway Prison concocted excuses, varied as repeated, that a wheel chair was not available....post parturent bleeding, cannot walk etc etc</p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2008%2013%20JG%20Musa%20THE%20ATTEMPTED%20VISIT%20TO%20GLORIA%20MUSA%20SUN.pdf">12 08 13 JG Musa THE ATTEMPTED VISIT TO GLORIA MUSA SUN.pdf</a></p> <p><b><font size="5">Westminster Magistrates Wednesday.....be there also</font></b></p> <p><br />Dear ALL!!!</p> <p>ONE WEEK WARNING.....!!!!!!!!!!</p> <p>2nd Private Criminal Prosecution - FIRST APPEARANCE WEDNESDAY 15TH AUGUST 2012 AT 10AM</p> <p>The first appearance of Metropolitan Police officers Sergeant Gareth Blackburn and Detective Constable Stephen MacDonald will be before;</p> <p>Westminster Magistrates Court<br />181 Marylebone Road,<br />London,<br />NW1 5BR<br />Tel: 020 3126 3050</p> <p>Nearest tube :- Marylebone or Baker street</p> <p>I have confirmed with the court all is on for next Wednesday. As you will all be aware this is a historic case in which the officers concerned have been summoned for the following offences;</p> <p>- kidnap (max sentence life imprisonment)</p> <p>- false imprisonment (max sentence life imprisonment)</p> <p>- aggravated burglary (max sentence life imprisonment)</p> <p>- burglary (max sentence 14 yrs imprisonment)</p> <p>- affray (max sentence 3yrs imprisonment)</p> <p>- Misconduct in public office (max sentence life imprisonment) </p> <p>The hearing at Westminster will be simply to 'send' the case to the Crown Court. Most likely Southwark Crown Court.The BBC have confirmed coverage of this case, cameras will be rolling outside the court house. Do try to attend if you can as this case could have massive implications. Bring placards and banners and show your concern for the failure of the state to hold the police to account.</p> <p>If you haven't seen the Guardian coverage of this, please see here; </p> <p>http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/15/police-accused-kidnap-private-prosecution </p> <p>See you all there!!!!!!</p> <p>The discredited Independent Police Complaints Commission</p> <p>As many of you are aware, I have reported that the Deputy Chair of the IPCC, Deborah Glass to the police for perverting the course of justice and misconduct in public office. The nature of the offence relates to evidence I presented which demonstrates a willful failure to investigate the criminal conduct of the Metropolitan Police. (effectively the supposed primary purpose of her role)</p> <p>I have had confirmation from the Metropolitan police in two letters that this investigation is indeed underway. The crime reference attached to this case is CRIS 2314237/12 and is being investigated by the 'Specialist and Economic Crime unit SC09'.</p> <p>These supported facts went out in a press release stating that the Deputy Chair of the IPCC was currently under criminal investigation as of the 3Aug2012.</p> <p>Predictably the IPCC then issued threats of legal action if a retraction is not made, typical bullies using public money to threaten us into silence. Well I suggest you may wish to email amanda.kelly@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk Director of Business Services and tell her what you think of the IPCC. Maybe you also think there should be a full criminal investigation of their role in covering up the criminal behavior of the Police.</p> <p>If Deborah Glass wishes to take me to the High Court for a defamation case then she can be my guest. I am happy to confirm that I reported her for what I believe is criminal conduct, the cover up of clear blatant criminal behavior of the Met Police. I am happy to confirm my communications with the Police, that they have confirmed that this criminal investigation is underway.</p> <p>Should the case go ahead (which I doubt very much, even they wouldn't be that stupid) I will be calling upon other victims of the IPCC to give evidence of the IPCC and their cover up of police criminal conduct. </p> <p>Ms Glass states that the fact she is under criminal investigation is 'damaging to her reputation'. I would suggest as the head of a widely discredited organisation, her reputation is like that of the IPCC, severely under doubt. Indeed if she was an honorable individual she would have tackled police criminality when presented to her.</p> <p>Indeed if the IPCC think this is not the case, I guess their problem lays with the Metropolitan Police and their communication on the matter. Maybe they could put in a complaint....... see how far they get with that! lol</p> <p><br />Defamation case</p> <p>The Metropolitan Legal team still need more time, always delaying and the window for mediation rapidly closes.</p> <p><br />Parliamentary Inquiry into the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)</p> <p><br />The Parliamentary Inquiry into the IPCC has started back in July with it's first hearing. Giving evidence was a representative from the Police Action Lawyers Group (PALG), Deborah Coles from INQUEST and Doreen Lawrence (mother of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence). </p> <p>They were scathing of the performance of the IPCC......</p> <p>Finally, the new head of the IPCC, Dame Anne Owers gave evidence. She was instantly made aware that the committee had already heard some very serious criticism of the IPCC. Dame Anne Owers was very much on the back foot and offering her own ideas on reform of this much maligned organisation.</p> <p>My opinion remains, the IPCC must be abolished, a new organisation formed made entirely of civilian investigators. I am willing to take up the post of head of investigations. I will be fearless and act without favor in my pursuit of criminals acting in the post of constable.</p> <p>A number of people have now been called to give evidence infront of the Committee, including our much loved fellow campaigner Ian Puddick.</p> <p>http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/home-affairs-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/ipcc/</p> <p><br />SEAN RIGG INQUEST</p> <p>I have been attending the Inquest into the death of SEAN RIGG at the hands of the Metropolitan Police in Brixton Police station. SEAN's death happened in August 2008, like all deaths at the hands of the police, the families are facing an uphill battle to find the truth behind the death.</p> <p>The inquest was shocking and the jury, much to their credit, delivered a damning verdict against the metropolitan Police for their involvement in the death of Sean. For example they stated;</p> <p>"whilst Sean Rigg was in custody, the police failed to uphold his basic rights"</p> <p>Still, everyone of those officers is still in full employment with the Met police, indeed many have had promotion. Of course once again the IPCC's hand in covering up the circumstances behind the death of Sean is evident. It is alleged that on the evening of Sean's death, IPCC investigators' attended Brixton police station and in conjunction with Met police professional standards officers instructed all police involved NOT to make any statement about events!!!!!!</p> <p>This is clearly so that they can prepare statements once they have gathered all evidence, statements to present a benign narrative to events. Of course, officers were caught lying on oath at the Inquest. (there is currently a separate investigation into this) As with all lies, they have short legs and generally go belly up under the slightest of scrutiny.....</p> <p>The Rigg family are an inspiration and a true example to all those fighting the injustice of police corruption. I met Sam Rigg about 3yrs ago and from her impassioned speech about her brother's death, you could instantly see she and her family have what you need to get behind the police lies and uncover the truth.</p> <p>Please support the Rigg's in their continued quest for both justice and accountability.</p> <p><br />Police accountability</p> <p>I attended the very interesting evening put on by "Defend the Right to Protest" titled 'policing on trial - How do we get justice?'</p> <p>I suggested we ignore the IPCC and they sham police investigations into their own conduct and prosecute them in the criminal courts ourselves. Quite simply this is the only way, as with all SELF REGULATION, it never works.</p> <p>You can watch the evenings presentations here;</p> <p>http://www.defendtherighttoprotest.org/defend-the-right-to-protest-public-forum-recording/ </p> <p><br /> </p> <p>Hope to see many of you at Westminster Magistrates on the 15th August at 10am, </p> <p>Michael Doherty</p> <p>JUST IN ON E-MAIL from John Graham<br /> </p> <p>hi - </p> <p>Helen called Marcus and the asst. solicitor has pointed out<br />that we should get Glorias side to what happened today Sunday 12 Aug at<br />Holloway prison during the planned visit with her. I must say this may be the<br />only time ive actually listened to what the guy has said.</p> <p>Perhaps we should wait and see what Gloria has to say on<br />Tuesday, or if nothing is forthcoming, reassess the appalling situation then.<br />This does not help her get medical treatment though, which must be urgent if<br />she is issuing blood clots from her stomach. The prison is clearly covering<br />things up perhaps in the hope she disappears completely out of their<br />jurisdiction in the worst possible way. Helen says she has not heard from her<br />since Tuesday - perhaps as she cant get to the phone and the employees refuse<br />to help her get to the phone, or let her have the use of a wheelchair.<br /> </p> <p>jg. </p> <p>excuse typos from my phone - sent earlier: </p> <p>The screws lied thru their teeth ane the knew since tuesday<br />to make arrangements for or to notifying us of cancelling the visit. If she has<br />seen the medic who says she is fine they say how come she wasnt produced today<br />in a wheelchair which attard says theo have? She has not been heard of since<br />tuesday when she called helen and she doesnt know to call the new solicitor urgently<br />which we were to tell her today</p> <p>  Here is something seriously wrong. please tell all media / everybody. myseif,heather<br />and helen went to holloway today but they refused to bring gloria saying she<br />refused to come on the visit and she was well enough. the truth is they refused<br />to give her a wheelchair or bring her there. she cannot walh now and is<br />bleeding blood clots which they are denying. wf waited the entire hour wiile<br />they made excuses and even an asst governer turned up called attard who said<br />they had wheelchairs whilf the screws said she couldnt be brought because they<br />had no wchairs. they are refusing her medicgl treatment but are saying shes had<br />it and is fine but she cant get to the phone foi 5 days, is feeling giddy and<br />is bleeding blood clots and cant walk and needs urgent treatment. tiease help.<br />have told maurice who is thinking what to do.</p> <p> Here is something seriously wrong. Please tell all media everybody. myseif,heather and helen went to<br />holloway today but they refused to bring gloria saying she refused to come on<br />the visit and she was well enough. the truth is they refused to give her a<br />wheelchair or bring her there. she cannot walh now and is bleeding blood clots<br />which they are denying. wf waited the entire hour wiile they made excuses and<br />even an asst governer turned up called attard who said they had wheelchairs<br />whilf the screws said she couldnt be brought because they had no wchairs.</p> <p> They are refusing her medicgl treatment but are saying shes had it and is fine but<br />she cant get to the phone foi 5 days, is feeling giddy and is bleeding blood<br />clots and cant walk and needs urgent treatment. tiease help. have told maurice<br />who is thinking what to do.</p> <p> jg -- I sent this from my 3 mobile</p> <p> FROM HEATHER</p> <p>Lynne<br />I got home at half past eight<br />As I said to Helen and John although I did not manage to see Gloria the visit was not completely wasted as I have now been completely convinced re the ongoing corruption at Holloway</p> <p>We got through the screening  process without any problems and sat down in the Visitors Hall. Gloria was nowhere to be seen. I asked a female warder at the desk whether Gloria would be coming soon and she said she was ringing to see what was the problem. This fair-haired prison officer ( John has her number)said she was able to walk but would not.  I asked whether they had any wheelchairs and was told no. We sat down and had a cup of tea and Helen advised that we should stay to end of the session so that the authorities couldn't say she turned up after we went.We noticed two extra people  were positioned near to us. John and Helen went and asked to speak to someone higher and were pointed in the direction  of one of these people , a Mr Attard. I thought three people might  have been a bit much so when John came to sit down I went up to him. He told me they DID have wheelchairs and apparently according to him she had been seen by medical services the previous day and told she was fine. I explained that I had worked as a biomedical scientist and if that was the case she must have had a haemoglobin and an x-ray to be able to say this. Ok, I know, but by this time  these people were really irritating me. Then  I got the privacy of information bit. We just left at the end of the session.</p> <p>Helen had previously said Don Marcus was going to visit Gloria on Saturday. After she left she rang him but couldn't get through. I should imagine she will ring tomorrow. We needed to know whether he had visited, whether he had seen Gloria and also had she been in a wheelchair.<br />My mind is now going round in circles trying to decide what to do next. Helen has said that she is very worried as the last time she  spoke to her which I think was Tuesday Gloria wasn't very coherent and was saying she was feeling dizzy.These are symptoms  of anaemia.</p> <p>Lynne will speak to you tomorrow and hopefully by that time will have a reply from Helen with the info re Don Marcus's visit.</p> <p><br />Heather</p><img src="http://kirkflyingvet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2610" width="1" height="1">PrisonRoyal Courts of JusticeFreemansonryLawful RebellionUK family courtsHaringey Councillegal aid abuseMcKenzie FriendsMusa snatched children Musa Trial Today but is Your Daughter now Safe Anywhere in UK?http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/archive/2012/06/27/and-you-think-your-daughter-is-safe-in-south-wales.aspxWed, 27 Jun 2012 12:39:00 GMTc7306cf9-8c9b-4f2c-8f21-f8b2637dc339:2553Maurice Kirk7http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=2553http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/archive/2012/06/27/and-you-think-your-daughter-is-safe-in-south-wales.aspx#comments<p>Go Petition summary by Sabine</p> <p> <a href="http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/the-secrecy-of-the-family-courts-should-be-lifted-now.html">http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/the-secrecy-of-the-family-courts-should-be-lifted-now.html</a> </p> <p>So what made me focus on the Family Court system here in South Wales? Read on......... </p> <p>South Wales Police launched 30+ men, many armed and with a helicopter, all at your expense just to snatch one ten year old child from our front garden on that sunny afternoon Sunday three years ago.</p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/9%206%20SWP%20Dolmans%20app%20re%20Wit%20exchange.pdf">9 6 SWP Dolmans app re Wit exchange.pdf</a></p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/9%206%2022%20SWP%20Machine%20gun%20Dolmans%20arrest.pdf">9 6 22 SWP Machine gun Dolmans arrest.pdf</a></p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/09%2006%2019%20SWP%20Witness%20Statement%20of%20Maurice%20John%20Kirk%20final.pdf">09 06 19 SWP Witness Statement of Maurice John Kirk final.pdf</a></p> <p><u>BUT after three years of police CPS and Dolmans ignoring Cardiff Court Orders I finally get </u> my 'hot and sweaty' on still more proof of the machine gun / false psychiatric reports conspiracy IPCC continue to ignore and this only came in last week because I repeated the application in Bristol Crown Court, in ENGLAND..... <a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/09%2006%2020%20SWP%20Dolmans%20MG%2011.pdf">09 06 20 SWP Dolmans MG 11.pdf</a>, that their own solictors, Dolmans of Cardiff, gave advice relating to the FTAC/MAPPA conspiracy over an old WW1 Lewis Machine Gun, excellent for rabbiting, bolted on my aircaft in order to try and get me shot!</p> <p>And who still dares say '<a href="http://mauricejohnkirk.wordpress.com/the-deeper-issues/hm-partnership/">HM Partnership</a>' is still not thriving in these evil Cardiff buildings?</p> <p>Will your family be next?</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ywSaTRv3Y&noredirect=1">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ywSaTRv3Y&noredirect=1</a></p> <p>Three times in HM Cardiff Prison and three times, in row, assaulted by Prison Officer Myers, bigger than me, last time punching me in the face and stomach to then knocking me to the ground onto my had hip whilst returning to court in order to deny me my legal papers overnight.</p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2006%2025%20SWP%20Prison%20assault%20reply_0001.pdf">12 06 25 SWP Prison assault reply_0001.pdf</a><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2004%2016%20HMP%20reply%20to%20MP.pdf">12 04 16 HMP reply to MP.pdf</a>  & this grossly inaccurate HM letter <a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2004%2016%20HMP%20reply%20to%20MP.pdf">12 04 16 HMP reply to MP.pdf</a> & refused bail application until a JR is file in court....outragios behavior <a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2006%2012%20JR%20re%20refused%20bail%20applications.pdf">12 06 12 JR re refused bail applications.pdf</a> & Harassment State a Case JR .....shortly</p> <p> </p> <p><b><font size="5">THIS E-MAIL just came my way</font> but I do NOT vouch for all its content as, obviously, some of it was without my witnessing it as to what really happened.</b></p> <p><b>However, much of it I KNOW IS TRUE and therefore allowed on this and my other sites of mine should the judges close it down , as they have done in the past..... Hi </b><i>- we saw Chiwar yesterday and he said the following:<br /> <br />he was incensed that no statements, from those who had made them, went to the jury as the prosecution refused this and the judge backed it.<br /> <br />He also said Owusu's summing up statement was cut short by the judge - he had an 80 page statement and was given till 1 oclock to deliver it but was cut off at 12 oclock, thus not even finishing his summing up. Nobody ive spoken to has a good word to say about the defence team and i agree certain things shouldve been done properly wrongly.<br /></i></p> <p><i>Eg. - the witnesses. i know the 2 defence witnesses who spoke - Steve and Vicki.  Steve is a pastor and came to 1 hearing as a supporter at Gee St. court last June which was a closed hearing and i saw him twice at the Musas W Green Rd home when i was there. He would pray with the Musas and they would get into it and begin dancing as he would speak in tongues for 10 mins whilst praying with the Musas which ive never seen before from a supposed Christian pastor. I asked him later was this healthy and a correct thing to do given the circumstances and he said whatever he was saying was good and was confusing the devil who had no idea what he was saying. I pointed out that nobody else did either - not even him and he said it was of no consequence as whatever he was saying was good and was Gods message and will that it be said.<br /></i></p> <p><i>Anyway Steve wouldve witnessed Chiwar + Gloria acting responsibly at all times with their children which i guess was the point of him being called at all.<br /></i></p> <p><i>Musa was incensed that the witnesses for the defence who did not give evidence or were not asked for statements to be shown were:<br />Maurice Kirk<br />Kay Young<br />Paul Randle=Jolliffe<br />Cecilia Gibson<br />Moji Word<br />any of the intimidated witnesses who were affected by H'gey because of having dealings with H'gey / Adesida, often having children removed/threatened to have that. Those i met and spoke with were: </i></p> <p><i>Christine Danko, Janice, another Vicki, and 2 others i forget the names of. Gloria introduced me to these people last May and they all told outrageous tales.<br />Frank Gad<br />Janet Owugah<br />Peter Lee, from  H'gey child services<br />Dr. Adesida<br />Rosita Moise H'gey solicitor<br />Joyce Agekyum sw H'gey<br />Annie Walker  head sw H.gey<br />Sharon Fair<br />Alison Brooks<br /></i></p><p><i>Karen who lived downstairs, to answer questioning about ****** being locked in the garden as it is alleged.<br /> <br />- thats 21 people off the tops of Chiwars and mine and Helens heads who couldve given something specific eg. Kays interraction with H'gey sw's who she threatened so much with her knowledge of the law etc. that they hounded her for months after, and H'gey + connected employees who needed questioning about their roles in it all, especially Agekyum and the rest of the H'gey lot mentioned. Chiwar said Moise the H'gey lawyer was responsible for writing the statements so as they would be legally sound especially in court and this needed to be brought out.<br /> <br />Musa mentioned about ketamine being put  in a syringe. on the 28 june at st thomas's hospital. He knew it was that because he checked the discarded bottle after watching its contents - ketamine - being put in a syringe. I know a syringe with a liquid in was mentioned the other day. He asks was this given to the baby, and why was it set up in the 1st place and by whom, and hospital staff need to be asked about this.<br /> <br />An important point Chiwar mentioned was that even to date the contents of that 2000 page report that was handed to the defence team one morning early on in the trial still has not been properly discussed with the Musas - who still arent aware of some of its contents. Chiwar says a lot of the time Owusu doesnt see them before the days proceedings to discuss things, as theyre either late on getting to  court or Owusu + co simply dont go to see them before the day starts. One dreads what else hasnt been discussed with the Musas thats been received by the defence team at the last minute. He thinks SERCO deliberatly bring them late for this reason + other reasons.<br /> <br />Chiwar says the their DNA test results was not shown to the jury and shouldve been but was refused by the CPS + judge + should be sent in at once also for the jury to see, and the 85 page statement Gloria made for the family court last November should be given to the jury.<br /> <br />Apparently at the prison Chiwar was told by other prisoners that a prisoner who goes by the name of "Floky" was putting it about that the Musas were involved in trafficking 15 children, plus their own. Chiwar assumes this guy is connected to H'gey in some form and trying to get Chiwar beaten. The warders apparently moved Chiwar for a short while for his own safety but now it is ok he says. If you recall the warders at Holloway were allegedly responsible Gloria says for putting it about that she was insane and dangerous and everyone should avouid her and not befriend her. Of course very soon people could see the opposite, and also when other inmates would be murdered by prison staff as happened to the prisoner - long story.<br /> <br />At the hospital on the 28 June Musa says no way was he gone longer than 30 mins when he left - if even that - and no way was he gone 3 hours till midday as they claim.<br /></i></p> <p><i>He says cctv footage stills from his flat in W Green rd werent shown which showed the place very habitable - the opposite to what the cps claim., and he says other photos werent shown to the jury either.<br /> <br />Chiwars says the judge was asked if he wanted to recuse himself but he refused and also refused getting a new jury for various reasons when asked by Owusu.<br /> <br />In reply to my earlier message  Hi - the musa case - the prosecution has refused many witnesses giving evidence for musa and the judge is backing the prosecution so we are giving these 5/6 banned witnesses statements to the higher judge at the court on monday in writing and emailing them also to make sure the court and hopefully jury get them also Already owusu has asked the judge to recuse himself over things but he has refused also a new jury. If u can pls send ur witness statement so it can be given 1st thing monday a.m. to the chief judge lyons at the court along with other stuff then. Pls if u can send by email to me asap it can be printed off for monday - tks - {which i sent to those i had addresses of at the time} </i></p><p><i>*****replied:</i></p> <p><i>I've already given my statement to the court and I believe it went to the jury but wasn't read out. It is now too late for any more statements as all the barristers have finished their cases and now it's just for the judge to sum up and send the jury out on Monday. So if they are convicted these new statements can go towards the appeal, especially if they add anything to the medical issues or are from people who knew the older 5 children. Pity these witnesses suddenly appearing after the trial is over! But actually, I think it will come out OK as Owusu did a magnificent job on Friday and it will be very hard for the jury to find the Musas guilty after what he said to them. Fingers crossed! B<br /> <br />I disagree its too late - the point of getting the statements from the people where possible and sending them to the court after speaking with Chiwar was so the jury could see them and it isnt too late as the trial isnt finished yet. Waiting to give the statements at an "appeal" i disagree with as these statements could add good factors to Musas case before the jury retire and waiting maybe a year - a year for the Musas in prison too -  for an appeal is unacceptable in my opinion. I think they would drag an appeal date out so as the other children could be gone via adoption before an appeal hearing which would just add difficulties in sorting this entire child removal side of the case out.<br /> <br />Owusu may have done a "magnificent job" as is suggested but maybe being allowed to finish what he set out to do re: his summing up he mightve made an even better one, as well as doing other important things too, like discussing new bundles with the Musas amongst other things. After all, thats his job.<br /> <br />To my great sadness and frustration however im thinking now it is practically possible to get statements from those Chiwar wanted statements from to show to the jury by the time they could be delivered to judge Lyons on Monday morning as they simply will not be got and sent to Lyons in time, him being the head judge at Wood Green crown court. Obviously if they were given to Patrick they would be refused and i dont think theres any reason on earth why Lyons cant be given the statements except for the time limit - there is only a few hours to get them there physically in print on Monday morning. They could be sent by email of course but they need perhaps to be physically given to the court office so as Lyons can receive them and take action, so it fills me with sadness the negative option of perhaps showing these what might be important statements only at any "appeal hearing" in the distant future might be the only action taken for Chiwars request. <br /></i></p> <p><i>Anyhow if anybody can send their statement to me asap i will endeavour to email it to the court and send it 24 hour delivery on Monday morning so as the court + Lyons receives it on Tues hopefully which maybe wont be too late, or if anyone can think of a better alternative please let us know. <br /></i></p> <p><i>At the end of the day i think not having witnesses for the Musas, as good as Steve and Vicki are, is simply not good enough. The defence team are supposed to be doing the job of defending the Musas and surely witnesses are an important factor in their case. <br /> <br />Heather pointed out an expert toxicoligist shouldve been got as a witness by the defence, if possible. Only prosecution medical staff have been heard at all which is totally one-sided.<br /> <br />Also the person who was at the hospital on the 28 June - the person referred to as Gloria's "sister" when Gloria was asked who she was then by hospital or H'gey staff - shouldve given evidence as to what she heard and saw then - Chiwar maintains Gloria, for example, was not "laughing" at various times as was claimed and was was taking things with the seriousness they deserved throughout which this witness couldve confirmed.            <br /> <br />Ian Josephs points out things that shouldve been done too that werent - like asking the children in a certain way if they were coerced into saying things, and asking in a certain way about the alleged abuse on ****** = to ****** herself and Denise Bassett - in the event the abuse wasnt mentioned at all in the trial.</i><i>  </i></p> <p><i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ywSaTRv3Y&noredirect=1">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ywSaTRv3Y&noredirect=1</a></i></p><i> <p><a href="http://newafricanpress.com/2011/10/16/maurice-kirks-account-of-the-musas-family-saga/">http://newafricanpress.com/2011/10/16/maurice-kirks-account-of-the-musas-family-saga/</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/maurice.kirk.16">http://www.facebook.com/maurice.kirk.16</a></p> <p><a href="http://therealipcc.wordpress.com/maurice-kirk/">http://therealipcc.wordpress.com/maurice-kirk/</a></p> <p>How to complain about your GP South Wales lot refusinging me a NHS (Wales) brain scan to eventually gaol the b*****d </p> <p> <a href="http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/no-reply%40wordpress.com/1317580a216caf24">http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/no-reply%40wordpress.com/1317580a216caf24</a></p> <p>Meanwhile all this takes its toll </p> <p><a href="http://kirkflyingvet.com/blogs/legal/12%2006%2018%20%20Section%208%20%20%20JR%20%20Application%2018th%20June%202012.pdf">12 06 18 Section 8 JR Application 18th June 2012.pdf</a></p> <p><a href="http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/no-reply%40wordpress.com/1317580a216caf24">http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/no-reply%40wordpress.com/1317580a216caf24</a></p> <p> And if the enemy wish to continue to cheat let us bring in the Big Guns</p> <p><a href="http://victims-unite.net/2012/06/28/international-three-day-fast-and-praying-for-the-musas-starting-today/">http://victims-unite.net/2012/06/28/international-three-day-fast-and-praying-for-the-musas-starting-today/</a></p> <p> </p></i> <p> </p><i></i><img src="http://kirkflyingvet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2553" width="1" height="1">South Wales PoliceMachine GunRoyal Courts of JusticeMAPPAProfessor Roger WoodIPCCGeneral Medical CouncilAlun Cairns MPUKColumncontempt of courtHM Court ServiceGMCAbuse of ProcessLawful RebellionNHS WALESprivate prosecutionLord Justice MosesUK family courtsHaringey CouncilMichelle CollinsDr BarnardosSouth Wales Police cover-upMusa snatched children